Reloadable Cartridges

[technicolour]

Ive been reading these posts on reloadable carts, and the russian companies making them,

I dont quite understand what they are, are they carts that you can put film in yourself?

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Jim

[StopMoWorks]

HEY.....those russian reloadable cartridges are specifically for our standard Super8 cartridged cameras!! At first,I thought the russian Super8 reloadables were for some wierd/unique russian Super8 camera model.

So, they use the same co-axial design, but made it, so one can disassemble & asssemble. From photos, I am not sure if they have a metal pressure plate. I wonder if they manufacture these cartridges or just modified existing ones.

It sure would be tricky to load this in a darkroom. Call me nuts....but I would do it....just takes practice. In darkroom applications for movie film, I wonder if one can safely handle film using the orange safe light (or is that only applicable to still photo work).....it would be a little easier to reload, if you can see what you're doing. Roger....I guess you checked-out those cartridge pics....maybe inspiring some ideas, designs, etc.....
http://www.geocities.com/russiancame..._cartridge.htm

Lionel

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[This message has been edited by StopMoWorks (edited November 25, 2001).]

[dogstarman]

Yes they are. You can see them at:
http://www.geocities.com/russiancamera/

Click on "Super 8 cameras" in the left column, then find "reloadable cartridges" at the top of the next page. You'll find pics and a link to a "users manual" that is just images of the loading process so kind of useless. This, plus my earlier post on the notch specs on them, is the extent of what I know.

Sam

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[mattias]

> I wonder if one can safely handle film using the orange safe light

you can't. not even with still film actually, if you're talking about a normal safe light. the reason those lights work when making *prints*, is that most photographic paper only reacts to blue light. there is in fact (old) film that works the same way, but i doubt it's available in super-8...

/matt

[MovieStuff]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mattias:
> I wonder if one can safely handle film using the orange safe light

you can't. not even with still film actually, if you're talking about a normal safe light. the reason those lights work when making *prints*, is that most photographic paper only reacts to blue light. there is in fact (old) film that works the same way, but i doubt it's available in super-8...

/matt<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, this only works when making black and white prints and, even then, only with certain papers that don't respond to red or orange light. There is no color print paper that can be handled this way.

As far as film goes, any stock that can be handled safely under a red light is going to be UG-ly when projected as it will see all reds and oranges as black. Very contrasty. The only film that comes to mind is Kodalith, Dupont or Agfa line art graphics film, which I used by the ton to do special effects "the manly way" years ago. There has never been any color stock that could be handled under a safelite that I have every heard of.

Back in the KeyStone Cops days of film making, there was a particular brand of black and white film (Superior?) that Laurel and Hardy used for all their shorts because it was one of the earliest full panachromatic film stocks available. Seems that Stan Laurel has light, light blue eyes and most stocks at that time period were slightly ortho (couldn't see much red). Now, while that made reds look very dark and muddy, it also made anything blue turn white on the final print! So they ordered this stuff from this little company up north, somewhere, because Stan's eyes would otherwise turn pure white with any other film stock. Now, all "normal" photographic stocks are panachromatic, meaning they see all normal shades of color.

Roger

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Roger Evans
MovieStuff
http://www.afterimagephoto.tv/moviestuff.html

[mattias]

> Actually, this only works when making black and white prints

of course, i thought that was kind of obvious. would be weird if just a very specific color didn't register on color film... ;-)

by the way, the only papers i have used that i couldn't use a safe light with were those designed to make prints from color neg. why would any other b&w paper be panchromatic? well, guess there are probably tons of reasons that i simply don't know of. roger?

/matt